See you next week!
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About this episode

In this episode, we are focused on the ever-divisive question of the importance of certifications in the cybersecurity industry. The answer to this question has changed over time from certifications being unimportant, to them being extremely important, to well, it depends.


Certifications can be extremely important for several reasons, including their ability to help your resume get through the Applicant Tracking System (ATS) filters used by the human resources and recruiting team, but they are not a silver bullet that will instantly land you a job.


As Jason Dion (Lead Instructor of Dion Training) shares with us in this episode, certifications can be your ticket to getting an interview, but they alone won’t get you the position. That said, without having that certification on your resume, you can easily be filtered out of consideration before a hiring manager even gets a chance to look over your resume. This makes having the right certifications and experience imperative if you want to land your dream cybersecurity position.


Just as a certification isn’t a substitute for a college degree, you will also learn that a college degree is not a substitution for having the right certifications. This is often not an “either-or” thing, but a “yes-and” type of thing that you must achieve for many cybersecurity positions.


What you’ll learn

  • Why certifications are important in the cybersecurity industry?
  • Are certifications or experience more important to a hiring manager?
  • Are certifications or college degrees more important to a hiring manager?
  • Which certifications should you be getting to advance in your career?

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Episode Transcript

Kip Boyle: 

Hi, it’s Kip. You must be listening to me right now because you wanted the latest episode of Your Cyber Path. Well, I’m here to remind you that Wes and I have switched to an every other week schedule. Unfortunately, this is the first week off, so there’s no full show for you today. You know, as practitioners, husbands and dads, the weekly schedule was just too aggressive for us, and we were concerned about disappointing you at some point in the future by not getting a high quality episode out on time.

But since you’re here, I’ve got a little bonus for you. I was just reviewing a survey of IT leaders from companies like Bank of America, Microsoft, Procter & Gamble, AT&T and Salesforce, and nearly all the respondents, like 98%, said that cybersecurity talent would be crucial for businesses over the next 6 to 18 months, and this survey was just taken. So it looks like the job market is going to pick up for cybersecurity people and that’s great. I’m really happy to see this and I’m glad I had a chance to share it with you now.

Okay, I’m just going to wrap up here by asking you one thing. Do you want us to answer a question about getting your dream cybersecurity job on a future episode? If you do, please visit the show page at anchor.fm/yourcyberpath. When you get there, find the message button, click it, and just start talking. Okay, we appreciate you and we’ll see you next week. Thanks.

Headshot of Kip BoyleYOUR HOST:

Kip Boyle
Cyber Risk Opportunities

Kip Boyle serves as virtual chief information security officer for many customers, including a professional sports team and fast-growing FinTech and AdTech companies. Over the years, Kip has built teams by interviewing hundreds of cybersecurity professionals. And now, he’s sharing his insider’s perspective with you!

Headshot of Jason DionYOUR CO-HOST:

Jason Dion
Dion Training Solutions

Jason Dion is the lead instructor at Dion Training Solutions. Jason has been the Director of a Network and Security Operations Center and an Information Systems Officer for large organizations around the globe. He is an experienced hiring manager in the government and defense sectors.